Oh, psychotropic drugs are the go-to by the medical community and society at large. The message seems to be 'take this and calm down.' Of course, it just leads to more problems. Also, birth control pills cause the body to enter menopause early. Girls are assaulted from so many angles. Pornography should be illegal, it is highly toxic to the brain and relationships, studies show this. The pressure to be perfectly thin, to look like a model, to get an influential career which may mean never fulfilling the natural desire for most women (not all) for child rearing, aggressive sexual attention, the jealousy of other women if you become sexually attractive and the cruelty that ensues, broken homes, mothers too busy to guide etc....why wouldn't girls be breaking down? The whole women's lib movement has created a whole other set of prison bars. Promiscuity damages the emotional body and is expected. Oh, the list goes on, it is a catastrophe, what are we prepared to do about it though. Boys have another set of pressures of course, but this article was on girls.
1st and 2nd wave feminism were useful and successful.....look what women are now allowed to do. 3rd wave feminism was weird.....have as much sex as you want with who ever you want to do it with because it feels good. We literally gave ourselves away under 3rd wave trying to act like men. 4th wave feminism accepts men dressed as women.
Early in my marriage, in about 2007, went to my doctor (Dartmouth grad) for a check up and follow up following the still birth of a baby. I was very sad (duh). My dr. was alarmed at my tears and tried to prescribe me anti depressants. When I told her I thought it was normal to be sad in my situation, she said, well, sometimes if you let yourself stay sad too long you will be sad forever so the antidepressants can help you!! What BS.
I have a teenage daughter now who has been homeschooled and done a lot of sports. I’m afraid for her and hope she can find happiness and a husband someday who has nit been abused by online porn, but so far she is incredibly Normal and happy. I think something has gone so wrong with parents and schools who are letting the internet abuse their kids
I’m so sorry about the loss of your baby. Yes it’s normal to be sad and crying about that loss. We’re not robots without feelings. What a damaging statement she made.
I had a similar experience with my doctor, I shed a few tears in her office because I had recently been divorced and it was a horrible divorce. Her response?
I need to take an antidepressant … so was I not supposed to shed any tear about my loss? These people are crazy!
Such women in power don't know what female solidarity is, they can be as abusive as men. I also never had any real good encounters with them, I am woman from lower class and don't look like typical woman due to disabilities, syndroms. Some see me just as ugly young man, or they/them or It me. I wish I could met other women like myself tbh.
I’m so glad we waited to allow our daughter to have social media. She’s in high school now and we have a agreed to just one social media for this school year and we’ll reevaluate next year. The comparison & bullying on social media can be devastating for girls.
Just to clarify in the last paragraph - do you mean to say: “They are then placed on mood and mind altering psychiatric drugs to correct a brain chemical imbalance that doesn’t exist and that carry black box warnings for suicide.”
Thank you for writing this article. It’s a travesty, and it’s happening to boys, too.
Wow. It's terrifying how fast this substack goes from the real world of girls violently abused by men into moralistic speculations about images in the virtual world. If we'd just pay attention, girls have told us (via the CDC's 2021 survey) what the biggest contributors by far (many times more important than social media) are to their depression and suicidality: violent and emotional abuses by parents and household adults (parents' partners). We didn't like that answer, so we ignored it. Girls are tough. Girls have by far the lowest suicide and drug/alcohol overdose rates of any gender or age, far, far lower than their middle-aged parents (especially men). They can handle some bad online images and messages as part of life. What they can't handle is being violently, sexually, and emotionally abused in real life -- no one could. That grownups today ignore real abuses inflicted on girls in order to misrepresent them somehow as victims of their own social media choices is grotesque. Let me leave you with a horrific statistic, again from real life: From 2010 to 2021, as girls' depression rates rose, girls were subjected to 13 million grownups ages 30-59 (their parents, relatives, parents' partners, teachers, coaches, etc.) who died from or were treated in hospital ER for soaring drug/alchol overdoses and self-harm -- 13 million! (see CDC ER and vital statistics reports). And we wonder why girls are justifiably more depressed?
There must be a connection with Fetal Alcohol Syndrom, this diagnosis is often not reconized and instead those children and adults are stigmatized as borderliners. this happened to me, my parents are alcoholics but no therapist cared.
Thank you so much for this!!! I’m the mother of a 9yo girl and a horse riding instructor of many girls. I’ve seen what the world is doing to them and I lived it myself in my time. It’s very sand and must be addressed.
I am female and suffer too, I only wish this life on my worst enemy not my kids. I am happy to not have children, they would get abused like many others. It's also made very hard ro get sterilization, I survive in germany in a rural area, it's extremely horrible here and in every corner is a therapist and only seconds away a asylum.
I was one of the lost girls you write about. Was sexually abused as a young girl by my grandfather... and eventually received a bipolar diagnosis in college.
What prompted me to heal myself was finding out that the medication I was on (which doctors do not know exactly why it works for bipolar) would one day be passed to my baby through my breastmilk. When I told this to my psychiatrist at the time she said, "You wanting to stop your medication means that it's working" and dismissed me. I felt that medication had helped me find what "normal" feels like and that I could slowly, safely transition to maintaining normal without pharmaceuticals.
I knew I wanted to be a mom, so I weaned myself off my medication and made changes to my life in order to stay sane: writing a gratitude list, regular exercise, regular meals, volunteer work, rigid sleep schedule, meaningful hobbies, self-help meetings, practicing cognitive therapy, and the five-item Social Rhythm Metric (SRM-5):(1) Get out of bed, (2) First contact with another person, (3) Start work, housework or volunteer activities, (4) Have dinner, and (5) Go to bed.
I learned that everyone has their ups and downs, and managing bipolar is just about minimizing the high highs and the low lows. It doesn't have to be a permanent diagnosis or ailment, even though doctors say it's a permanent disability.
I became a mom. I (mostly) quit social media. I came to Jesus.
It's hard, but it's possible <3 Thank you very much for speaking about this.
All boys look at hardcore porn, it’s perfectly harmless and normal. Gee, why is my daughter so depressed?”
We pornified our kids (!) in violation of all common sense and human decency. Most mental health “experts”, media, doctors, and academics continue to gaslight us all or blame “men”. Maybe knowing female sexuality is pornography all over the internet, and believing it’s always been that way is deeply traumatizing - and not mildly amusing as most mental health and media seem to find it.
And maybe being told that this has nothing to do with their depression and anxiety is gaslighting. And maybe being told that if they feel some kind of way about it, they’re the problem isn’t helping. (That’s certainly what boys are told). Oh and btw the men and boys you love (the real target market of these foul products) are mostly predators. Why would that give them anxiety and depression?”. Oh, and we praise and reward the pornographers. That’s lovely.
I am female in germany lower class and suffer here since years (i am now near 30) maybe from FAS and Morbus Basedown, never had baby pills, but the mother gave me Fluoridpills as a child. I had bad teeth anyway nand was givem Amalgam I still have these. I wasn't raped I assume, but I was bullied since school for being slow and looking deformed and hermaphroditic.
I started to sweat and maybe got Trimethilamynuria in Puperty, I was bullied for this and didn't go to school anymore. But as I was put infront of therapists and in asylums they just wrote I have OCD and lastly borderline, schizophrenic disorder. I was incascerated against my will, and sedated and fixated for just helping another woman in the room to wake her up, because she had sleep apnea and hold the others awake with her snoring.
The workers for aylum and psychology ruined my life with this, I am aware how ill these people are. I've got PTBS from those abuses and have nobody who helps me with my day. I tried to get care service but the social worker who whas send to me was a bully from my school days, and was passiv aggressiv with me. She is a mother of sons now and one of the local psychiatrists who diagnosed me must be her husband. It's disgusting how connected they are to harm vulnerable women.
They wish I koff myself just because they see women like me as trash honestly, (it's lookism, classism and even lesbophobia because of my apperance) I don't get the support I need, I also never got support to get work nd health care against my thyroid. My eyes are swollen and I feel often unwell, I also suffer from sleep apnea. These people truly ruined my life and many other female lifes. I wish I could sue them into oblivion.
Why are you sharing on social media between sessions? Was that a joke?
You seem to be missing the big picture. It's not just the drug companies.
Our entire medical system pathologizes emotions. We believe they are not healthy.
They are apart of our intelligence. They are the deliverers of our big picture intelligence.
You have psychopathy if you don't have emotions. Can't we all see we live in a society that holds up psychopathy as the ideal? We live in a society that protects evil and destroys empathy. Evil gets a trial in adulthood. Empathy gets slaughtered in childhood.
You are lost in the weeds. You are contributing to the problem by charging for something that should be free. Attention and love. A kind ear and respect.
We are a society in collapse. There is a buffet of dysfunction to choose from. It's hardly just the girls facing it.
Get your kids out out of the system before it gets worse. That is what I did. My daughters are not struggling and we are as sensitive as people come.
Woman famous for making soft core porn (available to teens on instagram - you know who you are) in the comments applauding. Barf. 🤮 you’re part of the problem.
Wait - so people who make and distribute pornography to teens …aren’t heroes??
And concerns about “porn” aren’t a moral panic? 🫨 wow even the PhD’s are starting to get it.
And where has academia and the mental health field been on this?Gaslighting the shit out of us, that’s where. And yes, teens were always the target market. Blaming the boys groomed on this stuff won’t help the girls that love them. But the gaslighting bullshit continues.
Very fascinating and good read Dr. Roger. I've recently learned is that men and women often have different symptoms when it comes to depression, with males often becoming more irritable, angry, and aggressive when they are depressed, while women show the more inward symptoms such as sadness, helplessness, and hopelessness.
Do you also express concern for the issues faced by boys and men? Surely you know that there are 4 times more male suicides than female suicides? That boys are lagging in school? That only 40% of college students are male? That young men are walking away from school, employment, and society in large numbers? Women have the female hive mind and are always looking out for other women - and turn their backs on men. It sucks to see men fawning over women, and turning their backs on men.
Oh, psychotropic drugs are the go-to by the medical community and society at large. The message seems to be 'take this and calm down.' Of course, it just leads to more problems. Also, birth control pills cause the body to enter menopause early. Girls are assaulted from so many angles. Pornography should be illegal, it is highly toxic to the brain and relationships, studies show this. The pressure to be perfectly thin, to look like a model, to get an influential career which may mean never fulfilling the natural desire for most women (not all) for child rearing, aggressive sexual attention, the jealousy of other women if you become sexually attractive and the cruelty that ensues, broken homes, mothers too busy to guide etc....why wouldn't girls be breaking down? The whole women's lib movement has created a whole other set of prison bars. Promiscuity damages the emotional body and is expected. Oh, the list goes on, it is a catastrophe, what are we prepared to do about it though. Boys have another set of pressures of course, but this article was on girls.
"The whole women's lib movement has created a whole other set of prison bars." YES!!!!!
1st and 2nd wave feminism were useful and successful.....look what women are now allowed to do. 3rd wave feminism was weird.....have as much sex as you want with who ever you want to do it with because it feels good. We literally gave ourselves away under 3rd wave trying to act like men. 4th wave feminism accepts men dressed as women.
And men are being ignored, and account for 80% of suicides.
Early in my marriage, in about 2007, went to my doctor (Dartmouth grad) for a check up and follow up following the still birth of a baby. I was very sad (duh). My dr. was alarmed at my tears and tried to prescribe me anti depressants. When I told her I thought it was normal to be sad in my situation, she said, well, sometimes if you let yourself stay sad too long you will be sad forever so the antidepressants can help you!! What BS.
I have a teenage daughter now who has been homeschooled and done a lot of sports. I’m afraid for her and hope she can find happiness and a husband someday who has nit been abused by online porn, but so far she is incredibly Normal and happy. I think something has gone so wrong with parents and schools who are letting the internet abuse their kids
I’m so sorry about the loss of your baby. Yes it’s normal to be sad and crying about that loss. We’re not robots without feelings. What a damaging statement she made.
I had a similar experience with my doctor, I shed a few tears in her office because I had recently been divorced and it was a horrible divorce. Her response?
I need to take an antidepressant … so was I not supposed to shed any tear about my loss? These people are crazy!
Such women in power don't know what female solidarity is, they can be as abusive as men. I also never had any real good encounters with them, I am woman from lower class and don't look like typical woman due to disabilities, syndroms. Some see me just as ugly young man, or they/them or It me. I wish I could met other women like myself tbh.
Women perpetrate violence against men as often as the converse
This is why I’m so glad my 14 year old barely uses her phone. She plays outside with friends instead. It’s like I’m raising her in 1982.
Good lord as the father of a 9-year old girl this is terrifying. Convents in remote areas with no cell reception are still a thing, right?
I’m so glad we waited to allow our daughter to have social media. She’s in high school now and we have a agreed to just one social media for this school year and we’ll reevaluate next year. The comparison & bullying on social media can be devastating for girls.
Just to clarify in the last paragraph - do you mean to say: “They are then placed on mood and mind altering psychiatric drugs to correct a brain chemical imbalance that doesn’t exist and that carry black box warnings for suicide.”
Thank you for writing this article. It’s a travesty, and it’s happening to boys, too.
Sorry Typo!!
Its updated now
It seems every passing mood now has a permanent diagnosis. It’s horrifying.
Wow. It's terrifying how fast this substack goes from the real world of girls violently abused by men into moralistic speculations about images in the virtual world. If we'd just pay attention, girls have told us (via the CDC's 2021 survey) what the biggest contributors by far (many times more important than social media) are to their depression and suicidality: violent and emotional abuses by parents and household adults (parents' partners). We didn't like that answer, so we ignored it. Girls are tough. Girls have by far the lowest suicide and drug/alcohol overdose rates of any gender or age, far, far lower than their middle-aged parents (especially men). They can handle some bad online images and messages as part of life. What they can't handle is being violently, sexually, and emotionally abused in real life -- no one could. That grownups today ignore real abuses inflicted on girls in order to misrepresent them somehow as victims of their own social media choices is grotesque. Let me leave you with a horrific statistic, again from real life: From 2010 to 2021, as girls' depression rates rose, girls were subjected to 13 million grownups ages 30-59 (their parents, relatives, parents' partners, teachers, coaches, etc.) who died from or were treated in hospital ER for soaring drug/alchol overdoses and self-harm -- 13 million! (see CDC ER and vital statistics reports). And we wonder why girls are justifiably more depressed?
There must be a connection with Fetal Alcohol Syndrom, this diagnosis is often not reconized and instead those children and adults are stigmatized as borderliners. this happened to me, my parents are alcoholics but no therapist cared.
I agree -- another issue in the rising drug/alcohol abuse crisis adults are suffering that severely impacts children and teenagers.
Thank you so much for this!!! I’m the mother of a 9yo girl and a horse riding instructor of many girls. I’ve seen what the world is doing to them and I lived it myself in my time. It’s very sand and must be addressed.
I am female and suffer too, I only wish this life on my worst enemy not my kids. I am happy to not have children, they would get abused like many others. It's also made very hard ro get sterilization, I survive in germany in a rural area, it's extremely horrible here and in every corner is a therapist and only seconds away a asylum.
I was one of the lost girls you write about. Was sexually abused as a young girl by my grandfather... and eventually received a bipolar diagnosis in college.
What prompted me to heal myself was finding out that the medication I was on (which doctors do not know exactly why it works for bipolar) would one day be passed to my baby through my breastmilk. When I told this to my psychiatrist at the time she said, "You wanting to stop your medication means that it's working" and dismissed me. I felt that medication had helped me find what "normal" feels like and that I could slowly, safely transition to maintaining normal without pharmaceuticals.
I knew I wanted to be a mom, so I weaned myself off my medication and made changes to my life in order to stay sane: writing a gratitude list, regular exercise, regular meals, volunteer work, rigid sleep schedule, meaningful hobbies, self-help meetings, practicing cognitive therapy, and the five-item Social Rhythm Metric (SRM-5):(1) Get out of bed, (2) First contact with another person, (3) Start work, housework or volunteer activities, (4) Have dinner, and (5) Go to bed.
I learned that everyone has their ups and downs, and managing bipolar is just about minimizing the high highs and the low lows. It doesn't have to be a permanent diagnosis or ailment, even though doctors say it's a permanent disability.
I became a mom. I (mostly) quit social media. I came to Jesus.
It's hard, but it's possible <3 Thank you very much for speaking about this.
All boys look at hardcore porn, it’s perfectly harmless and normal. Gee, why is my daughter so depressed?”
We pornified our kids (!) in violation of all common sense and human decency. Most mental health “experts”, media, doctors, and academics continue to gaslight us all or blame “men”. Maybe knowing female sexuality is pornography all over the internet, and believing it’s always been that way is deeply traumatizing - and not mildly amusing as most mental health and media seem to find it.
And maybe being told that this has nothing to do with their depression and anxiety is gaslighting. And maybe being told that if they feel some kind of way about it, they’re the problem isn’t helping. (That’s certainly what boys are told). Oh and btw the men and boys you love (the real target market of these foul products) are mostly predators. Why would that give them anxiety and depression?”. Oh, and we praise and reward the pornographers. That’s lovely.
I am female in germany lower class and suffer here since years (i am now near 30) maybe from FAS and Morbus Basedown, never had baby pills, but the mother gave me Fluoridpills as a child. I had bad teeth anyway nand was givem Amalgam I still have these. I wasn't raped I assume, but I was bullied since school for being slow and looking deformed and hermaphroditic.
I started to sweat and maybe got Trimethilamynuria in Puperty, I was bullied for this and didn't go to school anymore. But as I was put infront of therapists and in asylums they just wrote I have OCD and lastly borderline, schizophrenic disorder. I was incascerated against my will, and sedated and fixated for just helping another woman in the room to wake her up, because she had sleep apnea and hold the others awake with her snoring.
The workers for aylum and psychology ruined my life with this, I am aware how ill these people are. I've got PTBS from those abuses and have nobody who helps me with my day. I tried to get care service but the social worker who whas send to me was a bully from my school days, and was passiv aggressiv with me. She is a mother of sons now and one of the local psychiatrists who diagnosed me must be her husband. It's disgusting how connected they are to harm vulnerable women.
They wish I koff myself just because they see women like me as trash honestly, (it's lookism, classism and even lesbophobia because of my apperance) I don't get the support I need, I also never got support to get work nd health care against my thyroid. My eyes are swollen and I feel often unwell, I also suffer from sleep apnea. These people truly ruined my life and many other female lifes. I wish I could sue them into oblivion.
Why are you sharing on social media between sessions? Was that a joke?
You seem to be missing the big picture. It's not just the drug companies.
Our entire medical system pathologizes emotions. We believe they are not healthy.
They are apart of our intelligence. They are the deliverers of our big picture intelligence.
You have psychopathy if you don't have emotions. Can't we all see we live in a society that holds up psychopathy as the ideal? We live in a society that protects evil and destroys empathy. Evil gets a trial in adulthood. Empathy gets slaughtered in childhood.
You are lost in the weeds. You are contributing to the problem by charging for something that should be free. Attention and love. A kind ear and respect.
We are a society in collapse. There is a buffet of dysfunction to choose from. It's hardly just the girls facing it.
Get your kids out out of the system before it gets worse. That is what I did. My daughters are not struggling and we are as sensitive as people come.
RESIST!!!! 👏👏👏👏 STANDING FCKIN OVATION TO YOU!
Woman famous for making soft core porn (available to teens on instagram - you know who you are) in the comments applauding. Barf. 🤮 you’re part of the problem.
Wait - so people who make and distribute pornography to teens …aren’t heroes??
And concerns about “porn” aren’t a moral panic? 🫨 wow even the PhD’s are starting to get it.
And where has academia and the mental health field been on this?Gaslighting the shit out of us, that’s where. And yes, teens were always the target market. Blaming the boys groomed on this stuff won’t help the girls that love them. But the gaslighting bullshit continues.
Very fascinating and good read Dr. Roger. I've recently learned is that men and women often have different symptoms when it comes to depression, with males often becoming more irritable, angry, and aggressive when they are depressed, while women show the more inward symptoms such as sadness, helplessness, and hopelessness.
Do you also express concern for the issues faced by boys and men? Surely you know that there are 4 times more male suicides than female suicides? That boys are lagging in school? That only 40% of college students are male? That young men are walking away from school, employment, and society in large numbers? Women have the female hive mind and are always looking out for other women - and turn their backs on men. It sucks to see men fawning over women, and turning their backs on men.