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Wendy Cockcroft's avatar

The most radical act in today's world isn't to document your victimhood – it's to transcend it. It isn't to understand your chains – it's to break them. It isn't to validate your limitations – it's to shatter them. - AMEN!!!

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Craig Verdi's avatar

The chains are all in the mind. Great article. You are saying what the problem really is. Democrats can’t live without depressing people. The liberal elites can’t live without virtue signaling, so it is important to them to buy into the victimhood. Buy in and spread the despair that comes from a life that always says “You’re Screwed!”

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Joe Meakin's avatar

"Virtue signaling" is such an apt term.

The pathology can be traced back to the abortion controversy. On some level, in the case of most pro-'choicers', a subconscious one, a mind with any capacity for reason must consider that the premise of the position is that the unborn aren't persons; and ask, "What if that premise is wrong?"

A pretzel-like maze of psychological defense processes need to engage and maintain in order to avoid the reality of that question. One of those mechanisms, compensation, explains the virtue signaling. They try to advertise their virtue to compensate for their subconscious acknowledgement that they actually have none.

This also explains their fixation with labeling anyone with whom they disagree as Nazis. With the death toll from abortion exceeding even that of historic Nazis, they're projecting their guilt.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

Oh, yeah, the "liberal elites"? Can't forget about them!

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D.V.Lawrence's avatar

But you have to acknowledge the chains before you can break them. What part of this logic is everybody missing?

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Hummingbird's avatar

This is brilliant. Thank you. As a fellow therapist (a young one) I have watched as the field has devolved into a social justice machine. Many of my therapist peers buy into it hook, line, and sinker. I’ve felt alone as the propaganda has never quite sat with me. Thank you for articulating so well what I believe to be true about personal power and transcendence. I write this as I, myself, have recently crawled out of the pit of years of chronic illness… my adversity has been my greatest gift.

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Niki Elle's avatar

Sigh...I applaud you, and wish you (or the amazing individual who wrote this piece ) could be MY therapist. My therapist very much is in the "social justice machine..." I'm all for offering a sympathetic ear when it's appropriate, but sometimes it feels like I'm being offered scripts as a get out of jail free card.

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Mike Moschos's avatar

Its unfortunately little known, but the American Academe as we understand it today wasnt always here, it was constructed after WW2 from the decentralized, diversified, pluralistic, and vibrant Academe of the USA’s Old Republic and its construction wasnt even complete until the mid 1960s or maybe even until some point in the 1970s for full construction, and even then there were legacy ways and dynamics from the old system that hung on for a bit. We never should have done this

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Joe Katzman's avatar

Good for you, and glad that you're getting physically better as well. I would recommend looking into ways to brand what you do as something else.

Fields of endeavor who do what you describe generally end up being discredited wholesale as a dirty word. And the clock is ticking on a wave of made-for-clickbait lawsuits around this kind of pervasive harmful conduct and its subsequent effects. When that wave hits, having patients who have already been calling you something else for a while now will help a lot.

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Cinema Timshel's avatar

You might find some ideas worth considering in the several discussions these two have had as well:

https://youtu.be/psdGuIfY2qs?si=xyz1rmcGDiGyGOSQ

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Hummingbird's avatar

For some reason I didn’t see these replies until recently. I just looked into OTI and after a brief listen to the interview you linked I am motivated to join as a member and connect with other like minded people. Thank you!

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Cinema Timshel's avatar

I hope you do! I'm a filmmaker with no mental health qualifications whatsoever, but on a certain level I'm tempted to go through the process of becoming a licensed professional just for the sake of collaborating with these guys (plus I'm sure being a mental health professional pays far better than being an independent filmmaker with no significant institutional connections). They seem to be doing excellent work. Gives me some hope for the future.

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Sherman Alexie's avatar

I'm a Native American kid, raised in the poverty on the reservation. Back in the early 2000s, when I taught Ethnic American Literature, I would say on the first day, "Okay, all you brown and black students are in college. You've bypassed all the real and imagined barriers and boundaries that stopped you from getting here. So you've won your first great battle. Congratulations! Now what are you gonna do?" These days, that intro would get me escorted off campus after my first class! In that Ethnic Lit class, I also taught the work of Irish and Italian Americans. And played a documentary about a deaf family's struggle with cochlear ear implants so that our class could discuss Ethnic fundamentalism. My syllabus would also get me escorted off campus.

https://youtu.be/zXNrqKPsac0?si=nBZAXnGXiG9sGAzr

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Bacchus's avatar

It's why I follow you.

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April's avatar

Thank you thank you thank you what a beautiful post. You have nailed what is occurring on the head. I hope that many will listen to this and see just how trapped they are and how they can break free.

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Rob Kay's avatar

It is a Parody, OK? There are very few people who suffer from 'Marcus-complex' , and the odd thing is that most of them are perfectly adapted to survival in a rather complex, metro-sexual world that they embrace. The only way to escape this is to move to the country, grow cabbages, and raise chickens - (as I did 35 years ago) it helps focus the mind having to shovel a bit of manure ;-)

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Chris Marcon's avatar

Man this is spot on. The patronizing insideous manipulation of how society responds to real problems becomes a romance with disempowerment and I believe ultimately nihilism .

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Luis Crawford's avatar

This article cracked me up on multiple occasions. For good reason! And the pictures too!

I was wondering doc, I spent about close to ten years in a victomhood mentality, after experiencing some traumatic experiences as a young person within my family. One of the most freeing things I heard was hearing somebody talk about victim mentality without it being addressed at me directly. I recognized this is what I had been perpetuating for a long time and it exacerbated when I briefly flirted with woke ideas for a while. But ultimately taking responsibility for my own actions and behaviors really helped. I do sympathize with young people especially today, as I think they might be wasting years like I did, without benefiting from making changes. I'm not a victim anymore, and life is mostly good, with the inevitable ups and downs. Thanks for sharing this great article.

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The Lone Wolfers's avatar

Linking woke culture to skyrocketing antidepressant use is...a stretch. You sure it has nothing to do with one of those massive 'systems' you insist don't exist - big pharma and it's billions of marketing dollars, lobbyists and salespeople?

The mindset that an individual's happiness has nothing to do with the inequities our systems create is very Oprah/ Dr Phil. "Manifest the life you want!" Of course, we are responsible for doing the best we can with our own lives. But giving up on collective action and community just leads to accepting whatever people with the most wealth and influence decide to bring our way.

In the system we live in, not everybody can be wealthy. There could not be wildly wealthy and successful people if there weren't people who were wildly poor and devoid of the freedom to 'make better life choices'. How would McDonalds and Starbucks and Amazon exist without their thousands of underpaid workers? Yet I bet you're one of the people who tsks when said workers go on strike for better wages.

There are ways to improve the world through collective action. Simply focusing on ourselves as individuals to 'transcend' the world's odds is how we lose empathy for others. And how oppressive regimes become the norm.

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Lisa Lindeman, Ph.D.'s avatar

Well said! Thank you for adding this. This is the crucial nuance missing from the article.

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Christine Burnett's avatar

You can agree that the Medical Model is a huge problem and totally disagree on what does cause psych issues. That’s part of why people don’t unify over change. I don’t agree with your view or the other one presented in your piece. Does telling people they can will themselves out of suicidal thoughts, cutting, psychosis, work? For a mild depression, exercise, medication, diet change, focusing on your strengths can work. But unfortunately many psych issues are too serious for that. Believing you’re a victim isn’t what causes psych issues.

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Steven EeCee's avatar

It’s quite clear that the author is pointing out a very specific cultural and psychological industry-engineered therapeutic program that is perpetuating negative consequences primarily for young and impressionable individuals.

The critique of the Critical Theory/Social Justice informed therapeutic model is essential for a positive transformation toward individual personal agency. And this approach doesn’t “victim blame” or ignore the maladies that you mention. They simply require an alternative remedy specific to those adversities.

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Christine Burnett's avatar

It mentioned seeing oneself as a victim perpetuated by woke culture a number of times. Not what I have found to be the cause of psychological issues. It’s a viewpoint that is use to attack people who are struggling. People are told they are playing the victim when they are in a serious struggle. It’s not helpful. It’s annoying at best.

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John James O'Brien's avatar

Not the cause, the enabler. The author reveals in passing grasp of the systemic issues in a way that differentiates from subsuming oneself into victimhood. This might well be annoying if one holds to blaming externals (that have been internalized). It’s a challenging premise—but apt.

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Christine Burnett's avatar

It’s easy to sit outside someone else’s struggle and say what they are doing wrong. But to move forward there needs to be an understanding of other’s situation. If the viewpoint is that there now reason why people develop psych issues other than they see themselves as victims or choose to live in the past, then the MH field has no value which does sound like Roger’s view. I think MH field could have value but I would stay away from it as it existes now.

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Chris Marcon's avatar

So it's really perfect. If it isn't the initial cause , it will soon be the primary cause ; as trauma is not in the now for most, but in a past forever revisited .

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Rob Kay's avatar

I found it superficial and trite, but it works as a parody piece.

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Mystic William's avatar

I read it as an amalgam of anecdotes. I didn’t think an actual Marcus existed exactly as portrayed. But, I have seen this thinking in young people around me. Many times. Specifically around Climate Change. Utterly demoralized young people whose demeanour changes instantly when the topic arises. Their shoulders sag, their facial expression becomes hangdog.

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Murray Pate's avatar

To some this response is trite and superficial.

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Momma Nancy's avatar

Christine, I agree with you. We can understand that systemic racism is very much a reality, AND AT THE SAME TIME avoid a victim mentality. Accepting that systemic racism and oppression exists should radicalize us rather than lead us to despair (in the words of Mariame Kaba).

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Dianna Dentino's avatar

Let me guess … Dr. McFillin is a white man … has achieved everything thus far in his ‘charmed white life’ on his own. 🤢

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Rob Kay's avatar

No, he is Irish, (by name) which means that he is automatically enrolled in a deprived minority by virtue of his ancestors dying in the Potato Famine caused entirely by British Colonial Oppression and their few survivors emigrating to somewhere that had pizza such as Chicago..

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Carisa Sullivan's avatar

It wasn’t a famine. It was a genocide.

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Rob Kay's avatar

I'll compromise - it was a bit more nuanced than that, but its fair to say that the UK Establishment has generally treated the Irish working class abominably for many centuries - as indeed they also treated their own working classes - children working down mines and child prostitution in cities etc

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Frank's avatar

Guess what, feminist hack: white men account for 75% of US suicides. So much for your agitprop about "charmed white life".

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Cinema Timshel's avatar

The ideology that's discussed in this piece has managed to make being a white man a very real disadvantage in many important contexts in recent years, while simultaneously making racism against nonwhite people more popular in the counter-institutional zeitgeist. It's clearly been a social, psychological, and political disaster, and for the most part, it's only really been benefiting a small cadre of opportunist grifters who are well situated to play the identitarian game to their advantage.

I think the author's right that learned helplessness doesn't improve things for anyone, though, and I can absolutely see how this ideology reinforces learned helplessness for some people.

If we want to continue the real legacy of the civil rights movement and actually improve life for the powerless masses (including men and white people), we're much better off building solidarity across identity lines so we can get together and focus on getting our economic system to work for the general populace, instead of falling for these divisive ideologies while the very wealthy grab everything that's not bolted down.

https://cinematimshel.substack.com/p/ideologically-out-of-line-and-insufficiently

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Bridget's avatar

Great points. Most here long for unity with everyone else as there’s only one race, the human one.

But then you get people who wield their “you have/don’t have White privilege” stick on everyone around them.

Some people aren’t into solving problems, but merely intensifying them. And so many of these people are White themselves! I’m part Native and I see through them from a mile away. Seriously, if you hate your own skin color that much, my Blackfoot ancestors had a way to help you shed it, so to speak. Hey, we all have the same color 🩸if that helps.

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Will Martin's avatar

The only legacy of the Civil Rights Movement has been Jewish Subversion and Unlimited Shuck-And-Jive.

There is no way to build solidarity, none. Non-Whites will Always Hate Whites. End of, Full stop. Nothing Good Can Ever Happen.

/pol/ is always right.

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Cinema Timshel's avatar

The irony of this moment is that I've got a handful of "nonwhite" friends coming over to work on a fun project in ten minutes so I don't really have the time to respond thoughtfully to this. How do you think you arrived at this totalizing, conspiratorial worldview? Maybe you need to get off the internet and out into the real world more often?

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Will Martin's avatar

You can say that, but I don't believe you. /pol/ is always right. The internet is the real world, meatspace is DEAD because of the COVID Cult's dominance of every single space. There is no real social interaction anymore, anyone you meet is just a hollow shell of social programming that they spew to get away from you so you don't uncover who they really are.

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Liz's avatar

Et voila! There had to be one of these responses. 🙄Here’s a radical idea - not every white man is privileged or comes from a privileged background, something that I am sure pains you to admit.

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paul callaghan's avatar

Amazing that some on here can still spew the 'it's the system and you can't overcome it' crapola. What do you say to a young kid in dire circumstances? Give up ,it's no use? I could have done that and did at times...then I stopped listening to liars and naysayers...leaving behind those who kept on listening.

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Will Martin's avatar

If there was anything worth fighting for, none of us would have ever been born to begin with. Nothing Good Has Ever Happened.

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Not so young anymore.'s avatar

How utterly superficial

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Bridget's avatar

Ask my Irish ancestors about their White privilege. Once they got to America they saw signs saying “No Irish need apply.”

Explain it away, Dianna.

We’re all waiting.

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Chris Marcon's avatar

Let me guess . You and "Marcus" are cousins 😬

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Paul Dowling's avatar

And as far as my lovely mother, she’s still a woman, so why would I care what she thinks?

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Mystic William's avatar

I am white and wealthy and have a Masters Degree. What can you tell me about my life from that?

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Dianna Dentino's avatar

Luck and privilege. (My daughter would say you won the birth lottery.)

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Julie Grace's avatar

You know nothing about this person. Don’t pretend you do.

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Paul Dowling's avatar

It’s not privilege. It’s our ancestors sacrificed for us.

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Frank's avatar

Be sure to feed your 10 cats today.

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Julie Grace's avatar

So the reply you know nothing about this person was for Dianna, but now we know a lot about Frank: dismissive and more interested in being mean than learning or engaging.

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Frank's avatar

Man-hating feminists are people I shun, not learn from. For obvious reasons.

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Dianna Dentino's avatar

Slaves built this country under the direction of white male landowners. (Did your mama teach you to use that language when addressing others?)

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Frank's avatar

Blacks hold other blacks in slavery TODAY, you dipshit.

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Dane's avatar

Such language from a benevolent christian. Typical hypocrisy.

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Paul Dowling's avatar

You’re assuming I’m Christian. I’m more of an anti-muslim and anti- white liberal. And as far as language, I use all slurs and shit on all people, if I think they deserve it.

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Anna Drabik's avatar

This article is truly remarkable. More people need to be exposed to it. My favorite mic drop line: "We are not our categories. We are not our oppression scores. We are not our trauma narratives. We are something far more dangerous – we are human beings, endowed with the power to create, to choose, to transform."

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Lisa Lindeman, Ph.D.'s avatar

Before what you call woke indoctrination, we had the indoctrination of rugged individualism, the every man for himself, pull yourself up by your bootstraps ideology. If anything, what you're describing is an overcorrection, and while you criticize people for their embrace of today's cultural messaging (on systemic barriers), you seem blind to your embrace of yesterday's messaging (on bootstraps individualism).

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Courtney's avatar

I shared this comment on the page of Josh Slocum, who restacked it. But I also wanted to put it on your page.

One of the things I am most grateful for after my family is that I didn’t end up with a social justice therapist. It could have happened so easily and my situation would have been irresistible to one- especially a woman. It very likely, given enough time, could have cost me my life. I could actually feel my muscles tensing and my throat closing a bit while reading the job interview portion.

This was such a great article. Thank you so much for writing it.

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Bacchus's avatar

As I read this I was seeing, in my mind, rural maga folk who have the same victim complex via indoctrination from right-wing media and politicians. They also see themselves as victims of a system they fail to understand.

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Richard Franklin Richards's avatar

I’m a rural maga folk. We don’t see ourselves as victims of anything. We take up the day-to-day work that is in front of us and move forward. We just want the massive federal government out of our way.

As I was reading this I saw a parallel to people like you with TDS. You are continually fed the “Orange Man Bad” story line by the media and believe it so deeply in your hearts that it continually reinforces the TDS prison you have put yourself in. Free yourself. When all you see are the Orange Man Bad prison bars and not the space between them, you have constrained yourself in an imaginary view of the political world.

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Bacchus's avatar

Well you have your king now. Enjoy 😉

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

The 'mental health' field demands fealty of those who practice therapy. Language and political positions are policed. Licensure can be revoked if speech and thought norms are violated. This is done by recasting speech, which the state cannot control, as conduct, which the state and licensure authorities can control.

Every once in a while a therapist can sneak in a truth or two. Not often. And never, ever, ask a client "what are your adverbs?"

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Alison Afra's avatar

Sometimes it is the right choice for the therapist to validate the reality of systemic obstructions to progress. And sometimes it is the right choice to challenge the patient to see how they are using politics as an excuse to avoid being more responsible for themself. Sometimes both things are true at once. There’s really no need to make it such an either/or scenario. Indeed, the outright denial of the effects of systemic oppression is every bit as harmful as an over-statement of them.

In any case, social justice oriented practitioners rarely stand to benefit from deepening their patients’ depression. The basis for that claim remains unclear to me from this article.

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KateLE's avatar

The patient never gets any better, therefore they keep paying the 'therapist' to 'treat' them. That's the whole point of telling someone that the world is against them and they are powerless to change anything (although your chances of getting anyone to admit that to themselves are as close to zero as it is possible to get). The author does not say anything about denying that difficult circumstances exist.

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Katie Andraski's avatar

Glad I found you because I have been curious about how the therapeutic faith has gone wrong. I have been helped tremendously by therapy but I see people doing it these days and they are spinning wheels.(I’ve fired a few too.).

A friend has been therapy for several years. I asked her if her therapist ever suggested she was responsible for her own feelings. Nope. She was not happy with me. People get caught up in the drama triangle and get hooked on it and keep paying the therapist.

Looking forward to reading more. Thank you

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